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Sunday, July 26, 2009
Wednesday, July 22, 2009
HN7000s RE: [RVInternetBySatellite] Re: Value of DW7000s
I have a DW6000...use it every day...and live in mortal fear of the day it suddenly becomes inopperative.
DougC
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> Terry et al--
>
> I still have my old DW6000 after having replaced it with my HN7000s several years ago.
>
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[RVInternetBySatellite] Re: Suggested tool for applying "smackulation" to LNB
Yes. Took it apart down to the bare arm (i.e., removed xmtr, rcvr, cables, feedhorn, etc) to clean and dry out all connections a couple years ago. Took notes and drew a schematic of where parts came from and to where they should be reassembled as I disassembled the arm. Put it back together and it still works. I did NOT use any sealant during reconstruction despite the obvious weak point in the whole LNB: moisture accumulating behind the feed horn's plastic cover which then creeps back into the transmitter/
IMNSHO, HughesNet engineers really need to work on the feedhorn and wave guide sealing problem... unless they intentionally let it ride to keep technicians employed.
One potential solution I have not yet tested nor employed: replace the rather rigid clear plastic feedhorn cover with a more flexible and less sun-sensitive plastic or, at the other extreme, an even more very rigid plexiglas cover installed in a very low humidity (say, 5%; prevents internal condensation) and sealed with silicon or something else which is not so environmentally sensitive.
Fred Stevens
Upstate NY tripod portable system
At 2:19 AM +0000 23/7/09, strip_it wrote:
>Anyone taken the LNB apart & had it survive to work again?
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[RVInternetBySatellite] Re: Suggested tool for applying "smackulation" to LNB
Anyone taken the LNB apart & had it survive to work again?
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[RVInternetBySatellite] Re: Suggested tool for applying "smackulation" to LNB
You all are the greatest! Now we have a name for this procedure:
smackulation. He's been wanting to whomp on something for quite some
time. I kept telling him you can't treat sensitive electronic equipment
like that. I hate it when he's right.
Unfortunately, the smack only lasted about 8 hours. We did have a good
connection for most of the day. But had to apply a 2nd whack to get ss
back to 60 & 5 lights.
As Bill suggested, it appears to indicate the feedhorn is the problem. I
think I'm glad (?) it's not the modem. We tried to work Roger's solution
of providing shade for the dish into the equation but that didn't seem
to work.
Any other ideas? How difficult will it be to hunt down a used feedhorn?
Thanks as always for your responses!
Gail
Tripod | 83W | 1390 | DW7000
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RE: [RVInternetBySatellite] Suggested tool for applying "smackulation" to LNB
OK! It's your hammer, you can do whatever you like with it.
Bill Adams
www.InternetAnywher
321-431-2276
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From: RVInternetBySatelli
[mailto:RVInternetBySatelli
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 7:24 PM
To: RVInternetBySatelli
Subject: Re: [RVInternetBySatell
"smackulation" to LNB
Hi Bill,
I know you have the best interests of the group and its orientation at heart
but my goal here was to impart a bit of tool knowledge into what we do.
In the (more than several) years I've been involved with using and
supporting these systems, I've seen the "hammer the LNB" method used several
times to good effect. Somewhat like Terry's discovery of backing off the
elevation to attain crosspol, I don't have to understand it to accept that
it works.
Having taught manufacturing classes for many years I too cringe when hammers
or pliers are suggested or applied.
But I do think that some occasional reference to tools types and
applications is relevant here. If I needed to change out a transmitter and
had to get the tools I would hope that someone might tell me what size the
allen wrench needed to be. If you're going to beat on an LNB with a hammer,
it is best to use one which was designed to not damage the item being
struck.
Sorry if I injected too much levity for you.
Best regards,
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Adams" <Bill@internetanywh
re.us>
To: <RVInternetBySatell
te@yahoogroups.
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 3:55 PM
Subject: RE: [RVInternetBySatell
"smackulation" to LNB
> Wow, really!? Are we going to break this forum down to what KIND of a
> hammer we should be beating our LNB with?
> Anyone interested in talking about satellite internet?
>
> Bill Adams
> www.InternetAnywher
<http://www.internet
> 321-431-2276
>
>
> _____
>
> From: RVInternetBySatelli <mailto:RVInternetB
te@yahoogroups.
> [mailto:RVInternetB
<mailto:RVInternetB
Behalf Of Glenn Simpson
> Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 6:41 PM
> To: RVInternetBySatelli <mailto:RVInternetB
te@yahoogroups.
> Subject: [RVInternetBySatell
> "smackulation"
> to LNB
>
>
>
>
> A "dead blow" hammer is a hollow, rubber mallet which contains an amount
> of
> lead shot inside. The shot does not completely fill the internal void.
>
> When used to strike something it imparts a soft impact with lots of
> inertia.
>
> It is used for applications in which you would like to have the striking
> power of a heavy hammer without marring the impacted surface.
>
> Nice tool to have in the tool box.
>
> Glenn
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Seann Fox" <cptn.canada@ <mailto:cptn.
> gmail.com>
> To: <RVInternetBySatell
> te@yahoogroups. <mailto:te%40yahoog
> Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 3:30 PM
> Subject: Re: Occam's Razor -- Re: [RVInternetBySatell
> broke
>
>> Rubber headed one PLEASE!!
>> Seann
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 3:47 PM, Fred Stevens K2FRD <k2frd@mac.com
<mailto:k2frd%
> <mailto:k2frd%
>>
>>> I must say that as technically and technologically oriented as I have
>>> been
>>> all my life (including 24 years in the Army Signal Corps, ham radio
>>> operator
>>> since 1961 and now 5 1/2 years with HughesNet [nee Direcway]), I had
>>> never
>>> considered hitting my LNB with a hammer. I've always dug out one of my
>>> VOM
>>> meters, gone through all the troubleshooting software, spent hours on
>>> the
>>> phone with English-as-a-
>>> parts, yadda. I think I shall now reconsider my troubleshooting and
>>> repair
>>> techniques to include a hammer near the top of my list of HN tools.
>>> Occam's
>>> Razor: often the simplest solution is the best solution.
>>>
>>> Fred Stevens
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> I love my computer because my friends live in it!!
>>
>>
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>>
>>
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Re: [RVInternetBySatellite] Suggested tool for applying "smackulation" to LNB
Hi Bill,
I know you have the best interests of the group and its orientation at heart
but my goal here was to impart a bit of tool knowledge into what we do.
In the (more than several) years I've been involved with using and
supporting these systems, I've seen the "hammer the LNB" method used several
times to good effect. Somewhat like Terry's discovery of backing off the
elevation to attain crosspol, I don't have to understand it to accept that
it works.
Having taught manufacturing classes for many years I too cringe when hammers
or pliers are suggested or applied.
But I do think that some occasional reference to tools types and
applications is relevant here. If I needed to change out a transmitter and
had to get the tools I would hope that someone might tell me what size the
allen wrench needed to be. If you're going to beat on an LNB with a hammer,
it is best to use one which was designed to not damage the item being
struck.
Sorry if I injected too much levity for you.
Best regards,
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Adams" <Bill@internetanywhe
To: <RVInternetBySatelli
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 3:55 PM
Subject: RE: [RVInternetBySatell
"smackulation" to LNB
> Wow, really!? Are we going to break this forum down to what KIND of a
> hammer we should be beating our LNB with?
> Anyone interested in talking about satellite internet?
>
> Bill Adams
> www.InternetAnywher
> 321-431-2276
>
>
> _____
>
> From: RVInternetBySatelli
> [mailto:RVInternetBySatelli
> Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 6:41 PM
> To: RVInternetBySatelli
> Subject: [RVInternetBySatell
> "smackulation"
> to LNB
>
>
>
>
> A "dead blow" hammer is a hollow, rubber mallet which contains an amount
> of
> lead shot inside. The shot does not completely fill the internal void.
>
> When used to strike something it imparts a soft impact with lots of
> inertia.
>
> It is used for applications in which you would like to have the striking
> power of a heavy hammer without marring the impacted surface.
>
> Nice tool to have in the tool box.
>
> Glenn
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Seann Fox" <cptn.canada@ <mailto:cptn.
> gmail.com>
> To: <RVInternetBySatell
> te@yahoogroups.
> Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 3:30 PM
> Subject: Re: Occam's Razor -- Re: [RVInternetBySatell
> broke
>
>> Rubber headed one PLEASE!!
>> Seann
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 3:47 PM, Fred Stevens K2FRD <k2frd@mac.com
> <mailto:k2frd%
>>
>>> I must say that as technically and technologically oriented as I have
>>> been
>>> all my life (including 24 years in the Army Signal Corps, ham radio
>>> operator
>>> since 1961 and now 5 1/2 years with HughesNet [nee Direcway]), I had
>>> never
>>> considered hitting my LNB with a hammer. I've always dug out one of my
>>> VOM
>>> meters, gone through all the troubleshooting software, spent hours on
>>> the
>>> phone with English-as-a-
>>> parts, yadda. I think I shall now reconsider my troubleshooting and
>>> repair
>>> techniques to include a hammer near the top of my list of HN tools.
>>> Occam's
>>> Razor: often the simplest solution is the best solution.
>>>
>>> Fred Stevens
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> I love my computer because my friends live in it!!
>>
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>
> ------------
>
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.23/2254 - Release Date: 07/22/09
> 05:59:00
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
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Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
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